We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry

What does health actually look like — when you factor in ADHD, night owl energy, systemic barriers, and the courage to say the hard thing out loud?

In this episode, host Dawn M. Hunter sits down with Jen Fry, conflict resolution coach, speaker, tech entrepreneur, and author of I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk for a wide-ranging conversation about redefining health on our own terms. We talk about why "we all have the same 24 hours" is a myth that ignores real systemic barriers, how to have direct conversations without blowing things up, what it means to be a villager in your community, and why the consequence you're afraid of might already be happening.

This one goes places. Come curious.

📚 Guest Info

📚 Resources Mentioned

I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and BoundariesWithout Being a Jerk by Jen Fry — available on her website (includes signed copy + bookmark + sticker) or on Amazon and Barnes & Noble


Curious how strong your boundaries are? Take the free Workplace Boundary Audit to learn your boundary leadership style.


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