Latest Episode | June 8, 2026

We Don't All Have the Same 24 Hours | Redefining Health with Jen Fry

What does health actually look like — when you factor in ADHD, night owl energy, systemic barriers, and the courage to say the hard thing out loud?

In this episode, I sit down with Jen Fry — conflict resolution coach, speaker, tech entrepreneur, and author of I Said No: How to Have a Backbone and Boundaries Without Being a Jerk — for a wide-ranging conversation about redefining health on our own terms.

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WORK IS THIRD

A podcast for people who are done letting work take the lead.

Hosted by Dawn Hunter, Workplace Culture Strategist and creator of the RESET Method for burnout prevention, leadership capacity development, and sustainable workplace culture, Work is Third invites you to rethink the role of work in your life and to imagine something more whole, more joyful, and more human.

We believe that work isn't the main event. It's just one part of a meaningful, well-lived life. In each episode, we sit down with leaders, creatives, and change-makers to talk honestly about boundaries, rest, play, and radical self-care—and how they’re redefining success on their own terms.

Whether you're navigating burnout, building a career with intention, or just tired of the grind, you’ll find practical wisdom, inspiration, and a few well-earned laughs here.

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A companion playlist to the Work is Third Podcast, this is a genre-defying soundtrack full of anthems for unapologetic boundary-breakers and joy-seekers, with contributions from podcast guests. Fuel your fire, lift your head, and move your body with joy.

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Work is Third: The Story Behind the Podcast

Host Dawn Hunter opens up about the burnout, loss, and reflection that led her to reimagine her life - and create Work is Third. From productivity shame and grief to morning rituals and joy-filled boundaries, Dawn shares the real story behind the podcast’s name and her journey to reclaim rest and redefine success.

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“I believe joy is strategic. Boundaries are radical. And work should never come first.”

Joyful rebel. Culture shifter. Boundaries enthusiast.

Dawn Hunter is the voice behind Work is Third, a podcast about rethinking work, reclaiming rest, and building lives rooted in care and connection. A public health leader and lawyer turned movement-builder, Dawn brings sharp insight, deep heart, and a healthy dose of humor to every conversation. The podcast is just one piece of her work helping people and organizations lead with intention and live with more joy.

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DONʼT SETTLE FOR THIRD PLACE. UNLESS ITʼS WORK,

THEN DEFINITELY SETTLE.

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I’ve been thinking a lot about how to design a life on my own terms, so this podcast couldn’t have come at a better time. It’s the kind of conversation that makes you feel seen, and sparks the courage to actually make a change.

Motherhood broke open everything I thought I knew about work-life harmony. Listening to these stories, and hearing people name the questions I’ve been sitting with, feels like being guided back to myself.

This was awesome and such needed content right now for all us burned out folk. Looking forward to more episodes!